tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-639033898235940977.post1829807511532921727..comments2023-11-02T05:20:24.711-04:00Comments on The Oracular Opinion: Reality Check Needed: But Not by AmericansPamela Zydelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00455065276657597689noreply@blogger.comBlogger229125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-639033898235940977.post-39319926122005619122009-08-22T20:17:22.192-04:002009-08-22T20:17:22.192-04:00My, my, my...I'm gone for a week & 1/2 &am...My, my, my...I'm gone for a week & 1/2 & Pamela's blog EXPLODES!!!<br /><br />Yippee!! Having fun yet, Pammie??<br /><br />;)Susannahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17706229786132028791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-639033898235940977.post-85535241546464533892009-08-17T10:48:55.202-04:002009-08-17T10:48:55.202-04:00I don't think that's what Pamela means.
...I don't think that's what Pamela means. <br /><br />The nice thing about this site, in theory, is that both sides and all shades in between can come together and discuss.<br /><br />Playing stump the chump and putting (sic) next to comments isn't a way to discuss.<br /><br />When the moderator disagrees with you, you don't whine about it.<br /><br />It does prove my point about libs extolling the virtues of their "right-wing" friends and throwing that around in arguments. Until their "right-wing" friend disagrees with their stance, then it becomes some passive-aggressive personal attack. It's the same thing as knowing a racist by hearing them say, "Well, I have some really good black friends." <br /><br />You've been forcing political correctness on the public for years. Looks like your chickens are coming home to roost.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04014273634505096181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-639033898235940977.post-53747653114055188672009-08-17T07:14:48.066-04:002009-08-17T07:14:48.066-04:00(O)CT(O)PUS said...
Pamela, I was about to po...(O)CT(O)PUS said...<br /><br /> Pamela, I was about to post a comment..<br /><br /><br />Do Us All A BIG Favor And Don't!We Don' Need No Stinken Comments From The Obumma Azz KissersDiscipleDochttp://www.blackplanet.com/DiscipleDOC/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-639033898235940977.post-41925232659444320502009-08-17T01:39:49.937-04:002009-08-17T01:39:49.937-04:00BTW, it isn't my intention with this post to c...<i><b>BTW, it isn't my intention with this post to call Pamela stupid, although I suppose that is what I did. Let's just say that, from MY point of view, this kind of thinking is stupid (you probably feel the same way about liberals).</b></i><br /><br />W-Dervish: Let me begin by saying that if it was not your intention to imply a person as “stupid,” then it is best not to state a comment that insinuates such. You are also “assuming” that I “feel the same,” which I do NOT. Just because someone has a differing opinion than mine does NOT make it “stupid,” it just makes it different.<br /><br /><i><b>First of all, nobody in the WH wrote the bill. Congress is responsible for that. Secondly, maybe you'd be willing to hear what they have to say because you've decided you're willing to give them a chance to present their case. Or because you're an intelligent person who doesn't make up her mind before hearing both sides of the argument? Unless you've decided to be willfully ignorant, I don't understand why you'd at least not want to know what it is they had to say before making up your mind.</b></i><br /><br />I HAVE been looking at BOTH sides of this Heath Care bill and debate and reading the bill itself. I think you missed the point of my post. The White House has a web-site to say they are telling the truth. What are they supposed to say, “we’re lying?” I WANT all information before making a decision; however, I will do research from other reputable sources and skip the White House, because I feel they will be biased. Kind of like our media outlets, which leads me to my next point…<br /><br />You mentioned a few polls in your post, ALL of which were from Left-wing television stations. That’s pretty biased. I don’t place much stock in ANY polls much less ones that favor the health care bill but are from MSNBC and CBS. They are Left-winged stations, what do you think the polls are going to say? Fox, which is Right-leaning, states in their polls that almost 60% are NOT in favor of the bill. So, which polls are correct? Our media is very biased and if you want something accurate, you’re pretty hard-pressed to get it. It’s also a good idea to do your own research instead of relying on the media.Pamela Zydelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00455065276657597689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-639033898235940977.post-7561538586457350912009-08-17T01:14:37.596-04:002009-08-17T01:14:37.596-04:00Pamela,
We have always been a lot alike, trying ...Pamela, <br /><br />We have always been a lot alike, trying to reach across the aisle so to speak. I think that the time has come that it just doesn't work anymore. Don't get me wrong, I still have a few liberal friends, (you know who they are, and so do they) but others are showing their true colors. These debates have brought out the worst in people and I for one do not plan on sitting back and taking it anymore. I took the high road but I guess we can't expect that from everyone (again, you know who I am talking about)<br /><br />Apparently I pissed someone off because my comments were erased and my blog disappeared from the blogroll, which is just fine. At this point, it's better off that way. I don't abide people who think they are all that and look down on others. Maybe I learned the hard way, but it's one I will remember. <br /><br />I'll email you when I get a chance! I think you need to post that new piece now more than ever!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-639033898235940977.post-6616430879294141302009-08-17T00:42:39.137-04:002009-08-17T00:42:39.137-04:00Octo: I was away for the weekend and have been pla...Octo: I was away for the weekend and have been playing catch up. It’s quite ironic that YOU would address civility with ME when it was YOU who became unfriendly when I expressed my personal feelings and you didn’t like them. Then you continued the dialogue about me with others rather than emailing me and discussing it like an adult. I find that rather immature and uncivil. But I suppose when you consider my feelings “a string of empty assertions,” what should I expect?Pamela Zydelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00455065276657597689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-639033898235940977.post-27554371608031251962009-08-17T00:33:38.417-04:002009-08-17T00:33:38.417-04:00The real pity is the one-sided behavior that you a...The real pity is the one-sided behavior that you allow. She insults, and you take the high ground for her?<br /><br />She insulted several people, including me before all got tired of taking her crap, and then she acted hurt. <br /><br />At the end, you come in here on a white horse and rescue her under the guise of using Pam's loyalty to you and your site?<br /><br />Gimme a break.<br /><br />Public option looks off the table, but there is still plenty to discuss. This is not over.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04014273634505096181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-639033898235940977.post-30833832066895511272009-08-17T00:25:30.362-04:002009-08-17T00:25:30.362-04:00Pamela, I was about to post a comment about a rece...Pamela, I was about to post a comment about a recent visit from friends who were on their way to Mayo Clinic. They stayed at my place for the weekend. She has a treatable cancer but her treatment was interrupted by her insurance carrier. This is the type of abuse that healthcare reform attempts to address.<br /><br />I was about to provide a link to the full story until I saw how Shaw was being treated here.<br /><br />You and I, Pamela, have been championing the cause of civility and mutual respect for several months, but then I read the vicious smear and jeer targeting Shaw in this comment thread, and I am absolutely appalled. This is shameful, intolerable, and deplorable beyond excuse ... so I am out of here too.<br /><br />What a pity.(O)CT(O)PUShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07589336822561030860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-639033898235940977.post-37067087823895479422009-08-16T23:17:11.052-04:002009-08-16T23:17:11.052-04:00Wow, look the cabana boy showed up.Wow, look the cabana boy showed up.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04014273634505096181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-639033898235940977.post-32010278204584804852009-08-16T23:03:35.487-04:002009-08-16T23:03:35.487-04:00Wow Mrs. Hart. You have a busy place here. I don&...Wow Mrs. Hart. You have a busy place here. I don't know why everyone has to get so worked up over things they cant control. Relax. Light up and pour yourselves a cold one folks. Chill out.Joe Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15826760326409421626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-639033898235940977.post-71438486211869117082009-08-16T19:05:17.078-04:002009-08-16T19:05:17.078-04:00Well, thankfully, we may not have to worry about i...Well, thankfully, we may not have to worry about it for much longer....<br /><br />http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_health_care_overhaul<br /><br />This way they can't cry that I found it on Fox News. I'll check to see if it's on PMSNBC, but i(sic) doubt it.<br /><br />Looks like progrssive eruptions isn't working so well.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04014273634505096181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-639033898235940977.post-63230592375925836872009-08-16T17:56:10.647-04:002009-08-16T17:56:10.647-04:00Hey Whirlie! My guess is that you are a friend of ...Hey Whirlie! My guess is that you are a friend of one of the other loony lefties who regularly comment here, but anyway, THANKS for the biggest laugh I've had in months! Go ahead and dream on about picking up Dem seats - ever again. My prediction is that the Democratic party is DEAD. Look at the polls for the two state governor's races next year! Moderate Democrats have finally figured out that their party has been hijacked by far left wackos and they are not going to take it anymore! And you can forget about the independents. Better grab what you can now cause your days are numbered. Sha na na na. Sha na na na. You know the rest. <br /><br />James, Get off the fence. It is not Republicans who have made themselves look like hillbilly fools. That is the picture the left has been forcing down your throat with their dirty politics. They can make you feel better about being a Democrat (or like you, even get you to vote for them) if they can convince you that Republicans are idiots. Shame on you for falling for their childish tactics. Nothing that Bush did threatened the very foundations of our society - he never critized private citizens for freely speaking out against him or critized the free press reporting the news in the way that they deemed fair and accurate even if he didn't see it that way. Bush's debt over eight years is beginning to look trivial compared to the first few months under Obama. The things you cite as threatening your constitutional rights at least were committed with the stated aim of protecting the world as we know it. O-man is on record time and time again stating his disdain and contempt for traditional American society. The Socialists and Communists (the far left fringe) used the Bush hatred to sneak in an eloquent but fiendish candidate and you all fell for it head over heels. You trusted that the Democratic party would not dare offer up a fringe candidate. But my friend, that same party has enough far left zealots in its leadership to elect Nancy Pelosi as speaker of the House! The party is lost to these goons. If you don't like Republicans then become a Libertarian or start a third party. But if you're not with us on this my friend, you are against us. If this guy succeeds in his agenda (which I hope and pray and actually believe he WON'T) then one day when I'm telling my grandchildren how good life used to be in America and they ask what happened, I'll be telling them about guys like you.Buck Ofamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00237629340902242233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-639033898235940977.post-62003023555382329852009-08-16T16:10:10.203-04:002009-08-16T16:10:10.203-04:00I think that this country is in for some really BI...I think that this country is in for some really BIG problems.<br />But beyond the personal attacks...there is only one type of "ruler" that can control what business and industry does...He's going to bankrupt the whole country..<br />He’s going to make himself king...cause that's the only kind of ruler that has that kind of power...this guy is full of himself..<br />We must ALL continue to stand strong in our Conservative convictions and fight very hard for our candidates next year. We won't only be fighting for our candidates but for the future of our Country.<br />That Shaw women is a prime example of whats wrong with this country, it's people like her that brought this IDIOT into the white house and I can't wait until hes out!<br />We conservatives have every right to be spirited and raise our voices, especially if the congressman don't or won't answer our questions. They didn't give a crap when Liberals were more than spirited during the Bush administration while opposing the Iraq War. I didn't hear the Bush administration being a bunch of whiners complaining about protesters. Bush admin and we conservatives understand about free speech regardless of whether we agree or disagree with them.<br />As a Vietnam Vet, I pity anyone in the service today that has to serve under this guy.Arky in Y'shua'shttp://www.sodahead.com/user/profile/832542/arky-in-yshua/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-639033898235940977.post-17820353834642443992009-08-16T15:57:37.844-04:002009-08-16T15:57:37.844-04:00STOP bringing Bush up...Obama and his followers ne...STOP bringing Bush up...Obama and his followers need to stop using him as a scape goat for any and everything. Bush is out and for a entire country like us to come to this point in our history, it takes a whole hell of alot more then 1 president making mistakes...Oh and Obama bringing troops home was another lie..he wants 45k more and has signed another 650 billion dollar bill for the military.<br />What a idiot he is... He thinks people are sheep. It is incredible anything got done until he came into office. Boy he really is a good salesman, he sold this country on exactly what it wanted to hear. I did vote for him, and I’m so sorry that I did..<br />I didn't expect much from McCain, but we got far worse. I believe he will go down as the worse president in the history of the United States of America. Jimmy Carter must be relieved that he will no longer have to take that place in the history books Charge:)DiscipleDOChttp://www.blackplanet.com/DiscipleDOC/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-639033898235940977.post-62474262310046042812009-08-16T15:29:40.125-04:002009-08-16T15:29:40.125-04:00Oh, and to prove my point, so sorry to get the you...Oh, and to prove my point, so sorry to get the your (sic) wrong. Meant you're.<br /><br />That's part of what I'm talking about.<br /><br />Practice what you preach meaning tolerance.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04014273634505096181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-639033898235940977.post-45677720621408184892009-08-16T15:28:07.345-04:002009-08-16T15:28:07.345-04:00Shaw Wrote..."I just won't be returnin&qu...Shaw Wrote..."I just won't be returnin"<br /><br /><br />I say, like grateful Munchkins, singing: "Ding-dong the witch is dead". ..... All I can say is thank God..<br />Don't let the door hit you in the azz on the way out!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-639033898235940977.post-85063216515937972112009-08-16T14:51:00.156-04:002009-08-16T14:51:00.156-04:00I knew you didn't have anything to say about h...I knew you didn't have anything to say about healthcare. <br /><br />I also knew that you could dish it out, but not take it, shaw. <br /><br />Don't act like you haven't had a hand in insulting people, because you do constantly. <br /><br />Of course you can believe and write whatever you want, but calling others who don't agree with you stupid, sheep, or racist makes you not quite as above the fray as you act when someone counters your argument.<br /><br />So again, please explain how this won't raise taxes and why won't healthcare cause rationing? Also, why will it work where other social programs the government runs have failed?<br /><br />I know your counting on Pam getting rid of me, but keep in mind that you have insulted plenty of people on here. Just answer the question.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04014273634505096181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-639033898235940977.post-40779069824186059512009-08-16T14:45:39.125-04:002009-08-16T14:45:39.125-04:00Pamela,
I've enjoyed to a degree reading some...Pamela,<br /><br />I've enjoyed to a degree reading some of the comments here, but I will not continue to participate.<br /><br />I'm tired of reading some of your commenters who attack me for writing what I feel passionately about on MY OWN BLOG. I have not disrespected anyone in this discussion, and yet certain of your commenters continue to attack me. <br /><br /><b>Your[sic] an ugly, hateful person and I guarantee that if any of your so-called republican friends such as James and Pam gave you a true arguement you would turn on them, too.</b>-bpb<br /><br /><b>I just came back from reading Shaw Kenawe's blog and did all I could do to prevent myself form almost vomiting.</b>Sgt.York<br /><br /><br /><b>And NEVER post on either Shaw's or Truth101's blogs again.<br />I promise.<br />Liberals claim to be peace loving individuals, but boy, don't contradict with their bleeding-heart liberal ways or you will suffer the wrath. The sniveling cowards they are.<br />The whole world is screaming at what Obama is doing and these bloggers are supporting it.<br />Go figure.</b>--I'm Alway Right<br /><br />This is your blog, and you're free to run it as you please. <br /><br />I just won't be returning to have my words "twisted by knaves and made a trap for fools" nor will I allow myself to be called names and denounced here simply for having a blog with a Liberal point of view.Shaw Kenawehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08637273000409613497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-639033898235940977.post-46736961688804107652009-08-16T10:09:27.705-04:002009-08-16T10:09:27.705-04:00Arlen Specter said Wednesday he thinks people who ...Arlen Specter said Wednesday he thinks people who have been angrily disrupting town hall meetings on overhauling the health care system are "not necessarily representative of America," but should be heard.<br /> [...]<br /><br />What exactly is this Freaken nut-job talking about?<br />This Specter dude is a typical lefty demo-socialist trying to quell the roar of his, his party's, and the idiot in the White House's socialist agenda. They're all trying to make conservatives out as nuts and morons while they force their 'plan' up our asses.<br /><br />Well I have news for you Specter, these people are the mouse that roared. One of these days even the Obamatard supporters are going to wake up and smell the taxes and socialism you assholes are trying to impose on us. Hopefully, it will be before it's too late to turn back.<br />We need to get rid of the likes of you Spector and that will be a good start. Furthermore, If you vote for a bill that enforces socialized medicine on the country and destroys the doctor/patient relationship, I will do everything in my power to make sure you lose your job in the next election.<br /><br /><br />It will effect every part of your life. If you ever need medical treatment, are in the medical profession, work in pharmaceuticals, work in the insurance industry, ever have children, ever grow old, or ever have taxable income you will be affected by this bill. It is so far reaching as to test one's imagination. To propose such a monstrous piece of socialist legislation in America is an act of treason. This bill represents a clear and present danger to our way of life and I'm sorry to say that if this passes you and I will be carrying guns in the streets because that's what it will take to reestablish our republic.<br />And don't let these Libaturds like Shaw here tell you any different!<br />This is not about disinformation like she and her GOD Obamby tell you... I read the bill. And you should also.Roxiebellhttp://www.myspace.com/roxiebellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-639033898235940977.post-45428936189886585562009-08-16T10:05:08.825-04:002009-08-16T10:05:08.825-04:00Wow, I just read Shaw and Truth's comments. A...Wow, I just read Shaw and Truth's comments. And I was just about to leave you two out of the conversation.<br /><br />Shaw, nothing you write has any relevance to anything outside of excusing bad behavior on the part of the current administration. In all of your ramblings, you blame GWB, Republicans, and anyone who doesn't like your beloved president. No one that disagrees with you can get a word in edgewise. You came to my site, insulted me, and them ran away licking your wounds, and you just can't give up the hate. Your an ugly, hateful person and I guarantee that if any of your so-called republican friends such as James and Pam gave you a true arguement you would turn on them, too. Keep in mind, you pushed first. If you don't remember, I have archives I can pull out.<br /><br />Truth, I tried a discussion on your site, and you showed your true colors again and started insulting me. I even said that your's was a good place to discuss, but you've proven me wrong time and time again, no more.<br /><br />If you don't like me, ignore me. Period. I cannot control what other bloggers do, nor would I want to. If they choose to visit your sites, cool. I just don't want potentially angry people visiting your sites because they disagree with you and getting ridiculed. Not everyone deals with it the same way. Shaw should be ashamed of herself for making fun of others when she deals with it by saying that I scared her when she couldn't think of anything better. Truth tries to bully and every once in a while, he hits his mark with really angry individuals, not me. <br /><br />I enjoy doing my blog, and I really think that shaw doesn't. I know Truth does because he can get the negatvie attention he craves and then turn around and lecture others on being civil when he himself can't be.<br /><br />Stop making me the focal point of this discussion as it became de-railed about 130 posts ago. Both sides. And lets get back to it.<br /><br />I'd like to know from Shaw and Truth how this healthcare won't increase taxes, won't cause rationing, and will work where every other government social program, including the Postal Service has failed? Your answers? Don't pretend like you didn't read this, either.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04014273634505096181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-639033898235940977.post-1735582733780984812009-08-16T09:14:54.731-04:002009-08-16T09:14:54.731-04:00w-dervish said...
It boggles my mind that EVERYO...w-dervish said... <br /><br />It boggles my mind that EVERYONE wouldn't want lower taxes and reasonably priced healthcare. But, if you don't want it then I suggest you forward to the IRS the money that is no longer being subtracted from your paycheck. And you should also refuse to sign up for lower cost government health insurance when it's available. <br />_________________________________<br />OK, how exactly is nationalized healthcare going to lower taxes? They could dump the rest of the stimulus money that they aren't using into Medicare and assist those people, but I bet you they hold onto that money for themselves. How are taxes going to be lowered? Are state taxes lower or higher where there is state run health care? And why should someone give their money away to the IRS because they don't agree? Hate, hate, hate...Last I checked, the head of the IRS didn't claim some of his own taxes and I'm certain he lives higher on the hog than most of us, but uses excuses and conveniently forgets.<br />_____________________________________<br />If you can't PAY - either because you can't afford insurance or because your insurer denies your claim - you can crawl in a hole and die for all I care.<br />_______________________________________<br />Oh, that's brilliant. I'm assuming that either you make millions, or more likely, you make just enough that you won't feel the burn on this one. Nice telling them to crawl in a hole.<br />_______________________________________<br /><br />Scratch that. I'd still take pity on you and want you to be helped. I am a bleeding heart liberal, after all. But, that IS what you are asking for. Unless you're a rich a-hole who has enough money to pay for any medical care you may need, without insurance that may be denied, and no matter how high your bill is.<br />___________________________________<br />So now you put words in a person's mouth and assume that they want your help. And you put them in a neat, little class just like all socialists do so that you feel nothing when they ARE being fleeced and looted. You are truly a saint saying you would spend other people's money, not your own, on this person.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04014273634505096181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-639033898235940977.post-12198509254168312972009-08-16T08:56:38.077-04:002009-08-16T08:56:38.077-04:00Time for the liberal spin doctors to work a double...Time for the liberal spin doctors to work a double shift.<br />Just like the liberal bloggers who use racist images on their blogs while pretending to be Holier than thou .<br />They have been doing this for years. Nothing new here. They'll keep doing it until it starts working against them.<br />If I were a betting person I would bet - hands down - that it was the libs spray painted those swastikas on signs and pretending to be conservations. They are the ones acting like crazy racists.<br />Just remember - they are the liars not us. They are the ones trying to deceive the public - not us.<br />The true face of these back stabbing liars is being broadcast for all to see.<br />They have no problem at all being liars.<br />Weak, frightened to tell the Truth liars.<br />And Pelosi leading as grand Marshall of the lair parade.ImAlwaysRighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10661602503910438350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-639033898235940977.post-87385544714293166212009-08-16T08:40:38.207-04:002009-08-16T08:40:38.207-04:00SHAW SAID!
"BTW, I Am Always Right, you poste...SHAW SAID!<br />"BTW, I Am Always Right, you posted at my blog. I guess you didn't get the memo in time that ordered you to NOT DO SO! UNDER PAIN OF EXCOMMUNICATION!"<br /><br />YES AND I ALSO WENT BACK THERE A DAY OR TWO AGO AND DELETED ALL MY POSTS THERE.<br />SO THAT <b>MY NAME WOULD NOT BE ASSOCIATED WITH YOUR BLOG</b>.<br />THANK YOU!ImAlwaysRighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10661602503910438350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-639033898235940977.post-30348746957916775592009-08-16T07:30:48.235-04:002009-08-16T07:30:48.235-04:00Say what you want to Lefties, but we all know the ...Say what you want to Lefties, but we all know the real truth and it's not what your Hero Obama is saying.. His healthcare crap is just that CRAP.<br />And if you want it, sign up for it. <br />And good luck with it, if you should ever need it.<br />As for me... I don't want any part of it or him.<br /><br />And yes, I hope he and his plan and the rest of his agenda FAILS!Ciao Babyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08107648279058305058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-639033898235940977.post-57945082602464111462009-08-15T20:53:48.415-04:002009-08-15T20:53:48.415-04:00Proud Rightie: if it keeps wack jobs like you from...Proud Rightie: if it keeps wack jobs like you from disrupting town hall meetings with loud, ridiculous nonsense, I suggest giving yourself a brain enema. There should be enough intellectual crap in there to keep you and your deluded friends talking about it for years.Joe "Truth 101" Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08875151516978133598noreply@blogger.com