Tuesday, June 14, 2016

Liberals Can Be Reasonable & Honest About Guns




An honest and reasonable post regarding “assault rifles” from the Left.


15 comments:

  1. "but to an extent it's a default vote and I disagree with certain of your declarations of intent."

    Doesn't sound like a liberal to me. Seems you are digging pretty deep for a non point.
    If Hillary has her definitions wrong, that doesn't escape the fact that killers have made the AR-15 a weapon of choice, and it has been used in more than one mass killing attack. As proven by those attacks the AR-15 is quite deadly. It's dishonest to say if a killer did not have this type of weapon the kill rate would be the same, or they could do the same damage with a six shot revolver, an ice pick, a knife, a baseball bat, or other weapons that can kill.
    So where do we draw a line for weapons to be used for self defense? Can civilians own any kind of weapon? What's your answer to those questions?

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  2. Tom, I referred to this post due to the way many people say the AR15 is an “assault rifle”, which it isn’t, it’s a semi-automatic. And I thought Capt. Fogg’s analysis was honest, rational, and reasonable. It’s refreshing to hear the truth with no spin.

    It's dishonest to say if a killer did not have this type of weapon the kill rate would be the same, or they could do the same damage with a six shot revolver, an ice pick, a knife, a baseball bat, or other weapons that can kill.

    It’s dishonest to think that dead isn’t dead. If people are killed with a semi-automatic weapon, a hatchet, a musket, a car, or a bomb, they are still dead. And if, as the President likes to say so much, we save ONE life…then we better ban living because everything is dangerous.
    Look at France: 2 dead—stabbed to death by a terrorist (and streamed live on Facebook). So because it wasn’t MASS murder, it doesn’t count?

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    1. Oh and my answer is: I don't believe civilians need AUTOmatic weapons.

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    2. You don't deny that these kinds of weapons cause much more death than a less sophisticated weapon? If the guy in Orlando only had a knife, there would not be 49 dead and 50 injured.
      I didn't read it was Capt. Fogg's analysis, but the Glen guy who you claimed was a liberal who wrote it. Are they the same guy?
      Again, because Hillary got her definitions wrong doesn't mean she was lying. I doubt most Americans know the difference, and the difference doesn't matter. If they ban one, they should ban the other (talking about the two guns Glenn referenced). I agree with Glenn's last statement-"ban or restrict the sales and ownership of such high capacity magazines on all firearms."
      So semi-automatic weapons like the AR-15 should be legal for civilians to own?

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    3. I don't deny that any gun causes more death than a less sophisticated weapon. And you are probably right, had the Orlando murdered had a knife, there would probably be less dead, but still dead is dead.
      It was Capt Fogg's post so I assumed he had written it. I don't know the Glenn guy.

      I wasn't referring to Hillary in this instance at all, therefore I have nothing to say about her and whether she was lying or not.

      I believe I answered your question. I said citizens shouldn't be permitted to purchase automatic weapons.

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  3. "I don't deny that any gun causes more death than a less sophisticated weapon."

    So the decision is how sophisticated a weapon should civilians be able to own. I included a six shot revolver in my list of less sophisticated weapons. Automatic weapons are already banned.

    "I wasn't referring to Hillary in this instance at all, therefore I have nothing to say about her and whether she was lying or not."

    The article you quoted was referring to Hillary. The point you made about a miss definition of assault weapon was Hillary's definition.

    "It was Capt Fogg's post so I assumed he had written it. I don't know the Glenn guy."

    The article stated it was written by Glenn.

    Seems you should reread the post you quoted.

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  4. Perhaps I should reread, but I'm not going to.
    Have a great day!

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  5. Then be wrong.
    Have a great day!

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  6. McCain blames the rise in terrorism on Obama removing our troops from Iraq. I guess the Sen. forgot the troop withdrawal was a negotiated point between the Bush administration and Iraqi leaders. The cause of terrorism rising was America's invasion of Iraq based on a lie.
    I hope all this garbage will result in Republicans losing 30 seats in the House. Feingold from Wisconsin is running again for the Senate. I hope Warren stays in the Congress where we need her vote. Hillary can choose from many other VP candidates, we need to keep all our elected Democratic representatives in office.
    I'm having fun watching all this. I suppose because I don't believe Trump has a chance in hell of winning. But, as Bill Maher would say, never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter. If Trump actually wins, I won't be laughing anymore.

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    1. I should have said That IDIOT McCain.!!!!

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  7. Hi,
    FYI
    The above comment from A Proud Progressive was my comment word for word which I posted at Progressive Eruptions. I've only had a blog for two days. Tom's comment above was posted at Progressive Eruptions as Anonymous 101. I got an anonymous email about this. I could care less, just FYI.

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    1. Luke, if you "could care less", then why even post the comment?

      In truth, I couldn't care less.


      *This comment section is now closed due to posting off topic*

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    2. Thought I was being informative, sorry. I definitely won't be back again. I can see why someone is playing games with you.

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    3. Funny thing, Luke, I never said someone was playing games. Perhaps you know something I don't.

      Have a great day.

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  8. Proud Progressive, I have no clue what your comment has to do with my post. However, I couldn't care less at this point if every single Republican gets kicked out and they are all replaced with monkeys. Our public officials, ON BOTH SIDES, have FAILED the American people.
    I am ashamed of my country. I am ashamed my fellow Americans keep electing these dishonorable people into high office.
    If you even think for a second I'm going to defend politicians, you're on the wrong blog. I won't defend these rotten politicians for all the gold that should be in Fort Knox.

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